Steve lives in Cheyenne, Wyoming, where he works with draft horses (similar to the Clydesdales from the Budweiser commercials). He runs carriage tours around town; he provides them to music festivals including Bonnaroo and Coachella, where they’re mounted and used for security; and he uses them to teach leadership training to corporate groups. He’s a former science teacher; he worked for a decade in Orange County, California, and he talks about the surprisingly similar parallels between his two careers. He also talks about the history of his compound, which includes a horse arena and a mansion. And he also talks about his income, both as a teacher and now running his very unconventional horse business, and his very simple priorities for winning, including keeping enough hay in the barn for his “ponies.”